The Freemasons — Some Concerns Part 2

Ecclesiologistix: The Freemasons — Some Concerns
More from an Evangelical position, this time analysis of the Hiriamic legend and the comparison to Christianity.

My response to the post on Ecclesiologistix.
You are correct, it does not “say” you are redeemed, but the resurrection represents “…the single object of all the ancient rites (including Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc…)and mysteries practiced in the very bosom of pagan darkness, . . . to teach the immortality of the soul. This is still the great design of the third degree of Masonry”…

It’s purpose is to not be of one fixed belief, instead bringing together the common theme from all of the Abrahamic faiths. It makes a parallel to the resurrection of Jesus to that of Hiram.

Your second quote reads in the first part: …”let us imitate our Grand Master, Hiram Abiff, in his virtuous conduct, his unfeigned piety to God, and his inflexible fidelity to his trust”…His piety to GOD, not to himself, not Solomon, and not some idol, but to God. Mind you this takes place at the construction of Solomon’s temple, so contextually it is before the birth of Jesus. The …”Supreme Grand Master”… referenced here is God (Yahweh) form the Old Testament.

There are other inferences in the bible for salvation, In various passages, which I’m sure can be interpreted in various ways, but the kernel here is still belief in God (whether the God is the Trinitarian God, or God, the father of Jesus).

From a literal bible translation, there can be no deviation from it. I know that from my own experience in Pentecostal church. The bible is the absolute rule to the word of God. So this may be a deal breaker for the conversation, but there has been a lot of comparison of Christ to earlier incarnations of faith through virgin birth and crucifixion. In other words, Jesus wasn’t the first to get those distinctions, and by looking at history and other sacred works, there is a “lineage” of sorts that precedes Christianity.

With that in mind, it derails the notion of Christianity and anything else. the statement I just made is contrary to the Bible. Is it true, can I found it, no, but I can point to writings from before Christianity that share Christian elements.

Circling back to Freemasonry, Hiram is not the savior. Depending on your faith, you already have one. Christianity, Christ is the Lord and Savior, not Hiram Abif. Any Freemason that takes that translation as literal is very sadly mistaken. However, with each faith comes their own salvation. The parallel here is that all of these figures are part of a lineage, a line of God heads. This is well above the board though for just simply taking the bible for face value. And many argue that is it apocryphal to what the bible says, and it is. But looking beyond the bible, the connections get less fuzzy.


~ by Greg on February 7, 2006.

3 Responses to “The Freemasons — Some Concerns Part 2”

  1. Yep, it goes beyond the principles of the Abrahamic faiths in the sense that all their beliefs stem from ancient Pagan practices. After all, Jesus was the 16th “savior” born of a virgin woman and crucified…

    But try to explain that to an Evangelical and either they’ll be insulted or think you’re the devil. It’s sad really…


  2. Greg:

    We were having such a civilized discussion at my blog, but here you just post your own side without citing either my questions or my response?

    Understand — my goal is not to dog the Masons. My desire is to see if it is compatible with those of us evangelicals who believe the Bible as it literally is given. From your last post, you say that this is where we may depart. Thanks for your candor. You have shown great cordiality and civility on my blog — I hope you will continue to extend it to yours as well instead of just showing one side. Otherwise, it seems that what everyone accuses us of doing is being done here.

  3. Matt,
    No disrespect intended. I included the link back to your site for the “complete” transaction. posting the response on mine was more to condense the conversation. Nothing underhanded was meant by it.

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