Ecclesiologistix: The Freemasons — Some Concerns

Ecclesiologistix: The Freemasons — Some Concerns

Another evangelical with concerns on Freemasonry. It’s interesting, like doing research on a project, to find out the people who have things to negatively say against Freemasonry. What I’m finding is that arguments that stand wholly behind bible, chapter and verse, are totally closed off to discussing anything different.

Maybe it’s a sign of strong faith, but is strong faith always right?

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~ by Greg on February 6, 2006.

4 Responses to “Ecclesiologistix: The Freemasons — Some Concerns”

  1. Thank you for your reference to what I wrote on my blog. I am up for the discussion, which is why I said that I expressed “some concerns.” And also, if you look at the end of my blog, I asked for some feedback because I am genuinely looking for some understanding from those on both sides of the aisle, so to speak.

    But your comment about them squaring wholly with the Bible is not entirely correct. You do welcome those of all faiths (just so long as they believe in a Supreme Being — GAOTU?), and then you seem to tell them on how to ascend to the Celestial Grand Lodge is by basically being a good Mason. If you all didn’t ‘go there,’ I personally wouldn’t have an issue.

    The Scriptures tell us:

    “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV).

    Jesus Himself says:

    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me (John 14:6 KJV).

    We are saved not by what we do but through what Jesus Christ has done. And if we say, “I can get to heaven by being a good (fill in the blank)” we are not saying what the Bible is saying. It’s not by just believing there is some God out there, but by believing in Jesus Christ who fully showed us who God is and what He’s done and how He desires to work in us. So again, this is not compatible with the Scriptures.

    It is over and against this that I take umbrage. And I received the information from a former Mason — my own father.

    My desire is that neither one of us have our heels so dug in that we cannot look at the other’s concerns.

    Matt P. — Ecclesiologistix

  2. Matt, truly a gentle response and I appreciate that.

    Each individual mason is responsible for his or her own faith. But a requirement of joining Freemasonry is an acknowledged faith in God (their own faith’s God) and the acceptance of his will. This is a requirement to Freemasonry. One may ask how can this be Godly, in a groups mutual acceptance of men of all faiths, under the requirement of having faith, but it happens.

    Freemasonry is not an inherently religious organization. There are neither altars nor pagan idols. The assumption of getting onto heaven on “Good Works” is misinterpreted, in that as any Christian, Mohammedan, or Jew knows that faith alone cannot get them to God. BUT, Freemasonry gives them a framework by which to do good.

    Lastly, the interpretations of the bible are many and varied, and depending on your point of view it is either a literal (all or nothing) understanding, or more of a frame of reference. From evangelicals, with a literal sense of the bible, they often have a hard time separating out the two. Freemasonry is looked upon as a hedonistic deistic society, which is not the evangelical God view. So there is a distinct differing of opinion. I don’t pretend to know the bible by wrote, but I have read it, several versions (KJV, NIV, etc) and there are deviations between them. Does it make them wrong? No, but it leaves them open to interpretation. To which bible do you hold as “the” bible? And going back to the Greek texts, which do you go back to? The early church had many interpretations of what being a follower of “Christ” was, how can we now, some 2000 years later say this way is right and this way is wrong.

    One thing many people dislike to hear is that Freemasonry has a definite Gnostic flavor to it, but I will let you see what you can find. In sum, my opinion is that Freemasonry is not incompatible to God, or Jesus, and serves to compliment all faiths. It is a means to a sociological end for service and works in a diverse religious community without the pressure of conversion. It is not out to proselytize to anyone.

    I hope that sheds some light on Freemasonry. More than likely it begs more questions than answers.

    Greg
    http://www.freemasoninformation.com

  3. Hmmm..so for every quote of Jesus you can find that says faith is all that matters, I can find a quote of Jesus that says how we treat our fellow man is what matters most.

    ————————
    ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ “This is the great and foremost commandment. “And a second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.” (Jesus as quoted by Matthew 22:37-40)

    “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” (Jesus as quoted by John 13:34-35)

    “Whatever you want others to do for you, do so for them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.” (Jesus as quoted by Matthew 7:12)

    “But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward in heaven will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.” (Jesus as quoted by Luke 6:35)

    “If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. For I gave you an example that you also should do as I did to you.” (Jesus (after cleaning the feet of His followers) as quoted by John 13:14-15)

  4. This ‘faith’ is a faith dealing with salvation! We are ‘saved’ by His grace and His grace alone. Yet, how we live our lives is an outworking of that faith that Christ gives to us. We only can love our enemies because Christ grants us that love when He saved us. We wash feet not in our own power, but we stoop because Christ reached down to us and saved us.

    Don’t confuse the point of salvation when Christ redeems a sinner from the lifestyle that one lives from the salvation He has received through Christ living in Him. In this, all these issues are perfectly reconciled — though many may not understand (see 1 Corinthians 2:14-15).

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